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Leadership That Starts With Self-Regulation, Presence, and Right Relationship with Chang Zhang and Chishan Lin

Christie Mann & Rachel Baldi Season 10 Episode 26

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What if the most meaningful measure of leadership success is not speed or scale, but the quality of our relationships?

In this episode of The UpLevel Podcast, we are joined by Chang Zhang and Chishan Lin, leadership coaches, facilitators, and co-creators of Coaching With Your Whole Body. Together, we explore the practice of right relationship as a foundation for leadership, partnership, coaching, and sustainable impact.

Grounded in embodiment, mindfulness, emotional intelligence, and cross-cultural awareness, this conversation invites leaders to reconsider how presence, nervous system regulation, and self-awareness shape the way we work, relate, and lead. We explore what becomes possible when leadership is relational rather than positional and when success is measured by depth, steadiness, and connection.

This episode is part of The UpLevel Podcast’s ongoing Right Relationship series and reflects our growing engagement with leaders and organizations across the Asia Pacific region.

In this episode, we explore:

  • What right relationship truly means and why it begins with self-awareness
  • How nervous system regulation and mindfulness impact leadership and collaboration
  • Why presence and relational depth may be a more meaningful measure of success than performance alone
  • How to design conscious and healthy business partnerships rooted in trust and communication
  • What leaders can learn about right relationship when working across cultures, particularly in Asia
  • How introverts can honor their energy, boundaries, and strengths while leading effectively
  • Why leadership is relational rather than positional, and how coaching skills support both


About Chang & Chishan:

Chang Zhang is a leadership coach, coaching supervisor, and faculty member with the Co-Active® Training Institute. Her work integrates embodiment, emotional intelligence, somatic awareness, and vertical development to help leaders and coaches navigate uncertainty with clarity, grounded presence, and courageous authenticity.

Known for her warmth, depth, and precision, Chang guides individuals and organizations in cultivating right relationship with self, others, and the systems they lead.

Website: https://www.introvertleaderawakening.com


Meet Chishan Lin; building on this shared commitment to embodiment and whole-person development, Chishan partners with Chang as co-creator and co-facilitator of the Coaching with Your Whole Body Retreats, bringing her global, artistic, and cross-cultural lens to the work.

Chishan is an executive coach, leadership strategist, and global facilitator with more than two decades of experience supporting leaders across the world. Having lived and worked in countries across many continents—including Taiwan, the U.S., India, Brazil, Myanmar, China, and Japan—she understands the real pressures, cultural complexities, and nuanced dynamics senior leaders face in global environments.

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chishan-lin/



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